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BREAKING! Two more ex-aides charged in Walkergate investigation

Seeded on Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:23 PM EST
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MADISON — Two more former aides to Gov. Scott Walker have been charged with crimes linked to political fundraising while working on county time in the ongoing John Doe investigation.

Both worked for Walker while he was serving as Milwaukee County Executive, and both are accused of fundraising activities while at their taxpayer-funded day jobs...

"In the course of the investigation it was learned that a private email network was established and operated out of the County Executive’s office and that private network was used to communicate both political campaign and government work related information to select individuals," prosecutors wrote in the release announcing charges.

 

 

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American Idle

John Nichols, who writes for The Capital Times and The Nation, has known Scott Walker for over 20 years. He says Walker is a very hands on administrator, and it's inconceivable that he would not have known what was going on right under his nose.

Another nail in the Walker recall coffin!

  • 78 votes
#1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:31 PM EST
storyartist

You guys in Wisconsin are terrific! You show everybody else in this country how to live -- not how to solve the problem, but how to keep on living. It's not a project, then we go back to our old ways. We keep on working at it. And keep on uncovering more. A thousand cheers for Wisconsin!

  • 58 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:38 PM EST
PaPa23

Very interesting to see Reince Priebus mentioned also. Oh what a tangled web they weave.

  • 52 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:41 PM EST
cowboygrandpa

Walker tying his own noose around his neck. Priceless !!! LOL

I wonder why he just doesn't resign and save himself and WI all the cost and ill will that is a result of the lunatic he is.

Bubba is waiting Walker, he has your picture on the wall and is smiling in anticipation !!! Hahaahhahaaaaa !!!

Keep on keeping on WI !!! Put it to them !!!!!

  • 52 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:54 PM EST
American Idle

I doubt he'll resign. Too much BIG MONEY invested in him, especially from out of state. He is owned lock, stock and barrel by corporate elites.

Four donors jointly gave Walker $1 million in recent weeks:Most impressive sums being given to support the Republican governor came from out of state

  • 46 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:27 PM EST
storyartist

Those who are in it for the power struggle don't quit when the struggle is at its most intense moment. This is his shining moment -- why would he quit?

  • 25 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:31 PM EST
cowboygrandpa

storyartist:

I guess I'm still altruistic even after the many years of disappointment.

I still believe in asking not what I can get from my country, but how I can benefit my country. I'm still a Kennedy Democrat. One who stands for America, not just the wealth of America, but for the ideals of America !!!

I love this country to much to let it fall into the hands of tyrants and despots like Walker and his ilk.

God Bless America and remove the evil from the leadership of of the congress.

  • 45 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:50 PM EST
Reliant

I doubt he'll resign. Too much BIG MONEY invested in him, especially from out of state. He is owned lock, stock and barrel by corporate elites

Yeah, I am concerned about the impact all that money will have. In a recent poll I saw, Walker was leading against likely Democratic Candidates. With the 30 day extension of certifying the recall petition count, he just go another month to collect money that will be used blanket the State of Wisconsin with attacks on his opponentand to muddy the waters enough so he can hold on to his position. Walkers dismissal is far from assured, it seems, this is the last leg of the marathon coming up and it will require a huge effort to push through.

Go Wisconsin, Stay Strong.

  • 33 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:59 PM EST
michelle-1073610

And the crap just keeps coming, closer and closer, Walker, are you getting afraid yet? Priebus, too? Nice, bring the taint of scandal to the national level. On, Wisconsin.

  • 35 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:16 PM EST
Rorschach-558483

This story has legs as well as a whole lot of depth.

Earlier this month, two Walker appointees, Tim Russell and Kevin Kavanaugh, were arrested and charged with embezzling from veterans groups. A third man, Russell’s partner, was charged with child enticement.

Even child enticement.

These are the people who wave the "morals" flag.

  • 29 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:27 PM EST
storyartist

I'm with you on that. I've changed much over the years, vote differently on some issues now, but underneath it all, I've never wavered from being a RFK Democrat. We're called Progressives today.

They're chipping away at his support system to where all he's got is the Koch Bros. The minute they cut him loose, I expect him to panic and whatever reporters are holding on him will come forward. I know -- it's speculation -- but he triggered my sleazy button the first time I saw him, and I haven't given up on that notion.

  • 27 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:46 PM EST
faust-132915

Walker's been spending some serious time in Texas lately garnering as much cash as he possibly can (it's in the millions) so he can blitzkrieg the media (or perhaps post bail). Geez, I can't wait. This is going to be a wild political year in Wisconsin. I will be disappointed, but not surprised if he survives this recall effort. He has some things going for him that matter in politics, friends with fat wallets and a thick skin.

  • 15 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:20 PM EST
o'stephanie

Hey American!

With that much money coming in this late, you have to wonder if they are pounding sand down a rathole named Walker or are trying to stem the bleeding before it gets to his wealthy donors...

  • 27 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:26 PM EST
American Idle

steph, they think they can buy the election. They bought the last one. I think people have wised up.

  • 24 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:23 PM EST
o'stephanie

When something has worked for a long time for you, you just hate to give it up!

There is more dirt there, for sure. These millions will not be enough to staunch the bleeding though.

  • 21 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST
American Idle

steph, he's already been bombarding the media with ads. I really don't understand why people would allow themselves to get suckered again, but we've certainly seen that happen before.

  • 15 votes
#1.15 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:07 PM EST
PaPa23

His ads are nothing to brag about either. An early one had a teacher praising his budget repair moves and union busting. Turns out she was a charter school teacher not affected by the financial losses experienced by regular public school teachers and at a charter school ,that would likely benefit from the expanded voucher system. Then there was the one with the "successful local businessman" praising how the business climate had improved. Turns out his consulting business specialized in helping manufacturers outsource business to China.

  • 19 votes
#1.16 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:07 PM EST
rose-231178

AI, thanks for keeping us informed. I for one am so proud of WI (i live in MI) for showing the way. I tried to do my part by signing the Snyder recall petition. By the time I finally found a place to sign, and with enthusiasm to do so...I wound up in a doctors office getting major injections for a brown recluse spider bite.

I would have skipped the doctors appointment as I did not know that a spider bite was what I had, but my worried son set it up and I had no time to back out.

Still bummed but I doubt my one little signature would have changed it this time.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:14 PM EST
Tink-2285193

Yeppers...just like an overturned outhouse. The crap just keeps seeping out.

Walker may find himself a cell mate with Blago, the Ill governor who is serving time for his own crimes, along with 3-4 other prior Ill corrupt governors who are still serving prison terms. I will be happy to see him get his just deserts. It will not only prove to Walker that he is not above the law, but, that all the Koch Brothers and Big corporate and oil money can't buy his freedom. He let himself be a whore to the money machine, and now he will wind up being the one in jail.

It is impossible that Walker didn't know what was going on. It is just ridiculous to think that all this kind of crap on his behalf and/or his behest would not be known to him.

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:21 PM EST
The3CowsSayDeleted
YELLOW DOG D.

The3CowsSaySpammer.

  • 8 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST
Bye

The cows aren't spammers.

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:27 PM EST
American Idle

rose, just keep plugging away, anyway you can. Good luck. Snyder...ugh.

  • 10 votes
#1.22 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:28 PM EST
YELLOW DOG D.

Lisa_Lee Did you see their home page? Only Moos for comments.

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:31 PM EST
Bye

The e-mail they sent me was for Obama/Biden 2012. They stated they wanted to build their friends list first then do humorous Pro-Democratic comments.

They e-mailed me again that they can't access their account. Bummer....I was looking forward to the Cows perspective.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM EST
Jenni-Oh

Let the Cows speak!!

Who deleted the cows??

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST
American Idle

Jenni, I don't know Cows got deleted. I got FR and accepted, in fact. It's a Wisconsin thing.

  • 8 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:03 PM EST
johny-388777

I hope he goes to jail and makes all kinds of new friends in there. ha ha

Doing Jail time is a great lesson, it might wake them up. Just might. Stuff the fine. Put them in jail.

Why? They get labelled Jailbird. Its muddy and it sticks. A fine is not biggy for these fools.

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:19 PM EST
Arieus

Walker should have left gracefully when the people wanted him to go, but him fighting it just might end him up behind bars for fraud abuse within his office.

The man could have easily left with big bucks in his pockets, but greed and power always sink all those that think they are above and beyond the laws that are enforced upon the rest of us.

Walker, you are on living/walking on borrowed time. The day is coming when you will be rooming at your local jail.

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:50 PM EST
genevieveva

They believe their money makes them all powerful. People power over Koch money. So many states fell for the lies in 2010. We need to stay informed and fight for our children and future. I just pray people are paying attention. Ed is doing a wonderful job at covering your states issues. Watching it now.

  • 12 votes
#1.29 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:57 PM EST
rochart

It could not have happened to nicer folks.

Go Wisconsin!

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:37 AM EST
Tink-2285193

It would be great to see him in jail.

  • 12 votes
#1.31 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:34 AM EST
American Idle

Tink, I hope you'd be saying that only as a visitor!

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:51 AM EST
GA GUY

...And the "perp walks" continue...just as I knew they would when the first two started their journey through the Judicial system...

Walker's MO is just like that of most lower echelon crime figures...folks dumb enough to perpetrate crimes are seldom smart enough to sustain it while hiding it from the Authorities for very long...

...And just like every criminal enterprise; eventually the capo gets ratted out by one or two of the vermin who realize that they really aren't ready for "Hard Time"...

  • 8 votes
#1.33 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:21 AM EST
American Idle

Hey, GA GUY. I'm trying to remember just how many and who of Walker's past and current staffers are under immunity. The seeded story talks two, I think. I believe there are more. They may feel more inclined to spill the beans if they perceive Walker as vulnerable.

The curtain is being pulled back on the sham "All Powerful Oz."

  • 6 votes
#1.34 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:38 AM EST
spg64-1292127

David Koch is behind the Curtain making all his little GOOSE STEPPERS DANCE!!!!

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:17 PM EST
American Idle

Koch, the Puppet Master

Koch, the Poodle Walker

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:16 AM EST
genevieveva

Share that info far and wide..... Thank you. Good photo of one of the inter-breed poodles. So darn many.

  • 2 votes
#1.37 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:41 PM EST
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Bill K. NYExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

A political witch hunt and media circus orchestrated by the dims.

  • 2 votes
#2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:23 PM EST
American Idle

You know, this investigation is based on evidence. What's yours?

  • 45 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:28 PM EST
CapnJohnSmith

Bill I think it is the old adage "He who shats within thine's own nest must sleepeth therein" is it not?

To me this applies to any in such a nest.

  • 27 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:31 PM EST
BobbyG-420766

Bill's evidence is that God told him so... Just like, Cain, Bachmann and Perry... ;-)

  • 30 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:33 PM EST
greck

A political witch hunt and media circus orchestrated by the dims.

awww... that's just pitiful.

you couldn't even present one piece of evidence that what you say is true. Just had to say it anyway though.

I actually feel kinda bad for you.

  • 31 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:45 PM EST
blue wolf

Looks like the did catch a "witch or 2" Bill.

What say you to that....buddy?

  • 23 votes
#2.5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:46 PM EST
Linda412

Bill K

A political witch hunt and media circus orchestrated by the dims.

Seems the dims are the ONLY ones around with COMMON SENSE wouldn't you say?

  • 25 votes
#2.6 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:02 PM EST
Bill K. NY

It was common sense to burn witches. Evidence is presented in court. Not all people indicted are found guilty. Some indictments are dismissed after they have served their political purpose. This vine is an indication of the political purpose.

  • 1 vote
#2.7 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:08 PM EST
greck

Not all people indicted are found guilty. Some indictments are dismissed after they have served their political purpose.

so a specific example in this case would be....?

It was common sense to burn witches. Evidence is presented in court.

so you're thinking that traceable, verifyable emails is akin to "she weighs the same as a duck" as evidence?

  • 24 votes
#2.8 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:15 PM EST
Brian-497171

This vine is an indication of the political purpose.

So Bill, you are railing against others here for speculating on the legitimacy of these charges while you, yourself, speculate on the legitimacy of these charges. Is that correct?

  • 28 votes
#2.9 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:16 PM EST
Bill K. NY

so a specific example in this case would be....?

Bill Clinton was impeached but found NOT GUILTY. The impeachment was a political witch hunt. Wouldn't you agree?

  • 2 votes
#2.10 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:20 PM EST
J. W. Welch

Sorry Bill, the investigations will continue.

It's hard to believe he didn't know and approve of what his underlings were up to while on Milwaukee County's dime.

  • 23 votes
#2.11 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM EST
Bill K. NY

So Bill, you are railing against others here for speculating on the legitimacy of these charges while you, yourself, speculate on the legitimacy of these charges. Is that correct?

Not correct, I will not hold a hanging before the trial.

    #2.12 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM EST
    Rorschach-558483

    Bill K. NY

    Evidence is presented in court. Not all people indicted are found guilty. Some indictments are dismissed after they have served their political purpose. This vine is an indication of the political purpose.

    And this investigation has already produced one conviction. From the seeded article - if you didn't read it, you probably should...

    The probe already has netted one conviction. William Gardner, president of Wisconsin & Southern Railroad, was sentenced to two years of probation after acknowledging funneling at least $72,800 in illegal and excessive campaign contributions to Walker and other candidates since 2003.

    Where there's smoke, there's often fire. In this case, the flames are pretty visible.

    My money's on a Walker recall - and jail time for Walker wouldn't be a surprise.

    He's going to have lots of really close pals in prison. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

    • 24 votes
    #2.13 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:31 PM EST
    Brian-497171

    I will not hold a hanging before the trial.

    But you will exonerate before a trial?

    You called this a "political witch hunt" by Democrats. That seems to imply that the accusations are baseless.

    • 23 votes
    #2.14 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:32 PM EST
    ryoushi12

    Well, bill, how about this. Right now, Minnesota is basically SUPPORTING NW wisconsin under our Democratic governor, as we GROW jobs while the job "creator" walker seems to be presiding over an ever SHRINKING job base.

    In fact, we in Minnesota are starting to get a little TIRED of subsidizing wisconsin republican idiocy by providing jobs to the NW part of wisconsin, thus keeping OUR unemployment ABOVE 5% (7th best in the US).

    So damnit wisconsin, get that job destroying bastr-d out and start employing more of your OWN citizens, instead of sending your economic refugees across the St Croix into the Twin Cities. We have our OWN unemployed to worry about.

    • 22 votes
    #2.15 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:44 PM EST
    greck

    Bill Clinton was impeached but found NOT GUILTY.

    I asked you about this case.

    • 11 votes
    #2.16 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST
    cannonballer

    I find it pretty interesting that http://politics.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/05/9989489-dc-councilman-resigns-post-ahead-of-guilty-plea Only had 2 comments but this article, about a Republican has 54. It's almost like immorality is perceived along party lines.

    • 1 vote
    #2.17 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:28 PM EST
    greck

    It's almost like immorality is perceived along party lines.

    you don't see a little bit of difference in scope (city councilman vs. state governor) and context (plans on pleading guilty and resigns vs. is being recalled)?

    • 16 votes
    #2.18 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:32 PM EST
    cannonballer

    Corruption is corruption, when people are as outraged when their "team" does it maybe we'll get somewhere, until then it's just pissing in the wind. A dirtbag is a dirtbag, doesn't matter what his/her level of involvement in the government is.

    • 2 votes
    #2.19 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:44 PM EST
    greck

    indeed, corruption IS corruption and a dirtbag IS a dirtbag

    the difference in outrage: the dirtbag in DC resigned and pled guilty-end of story..it's just not that interesting after that. It's been resolved. What would an outraged person say? "they oughta fire him?" "they oughta press charges?" "he needs to take responsibility?"

    This story is just getting started, nobody's taken responsibility, it's gonna go on and on.

    • 15 votes
    #2.20 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:56 PM EST
    Terry-2167801

    How long do you think it will be before one of these aides makes a deal and turns "State's Evidence" implicating Walker?

    That's if it hasn't already happened.

    • 7 votes
    #2.21 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:43 PM EST
    Sally

    Comment # 2 restored for clarity.

    • 4 votes
    #2.22 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST
    Terry-2167801

    Oh no.......Not clarity...!!!!!!!

    :)

      #2.23 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:54 PM EST
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      Arlin Carlson

      This may add another reason why scott walker needs to step down as Governor because the moral stink will soon reach Madison and ineveitably taint Walker's whole admisntration. And Walker-if he did this at the County level is unlikely tochange his stripes at the state level.

      • 27 votes
      Reply#3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:33 PM EST
      American Idle

      Arlin, we are reeking from the stench of the entire Walker admin. You wouldn't believe what's going on here. One sleazy bill after another, all for their cronies, destroying the environment, public education, health care and hurting kids, seniors, the poor, the disabled.

      It's a mess.

      • 24 votes
      #3.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:35 PM EST
      genevieveva

      AI, I had a hard time commenting on your page the all day Weds. It would not let me vote or comment. It only happened on your site and said something about a bubblegum error??? Anyone ever hear of such a thing? Did I do something? I follow what is happening in your state and wish I lived there around citizens like all of you.

      I pray you get those guys all kicked out. It gives me and others so much hope that we need right now.

      • 9 votes
      #3.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST
      American Idle

      gen, that is weird. I don't know what that was. I haven't gotten any other reports on that. Did you report a bug to Newsvine? That's all I can think to do about that.

      • 7 votes
      #3.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:05 PM EST
      genevieveva

      No, I will ask them. Never thought of asking with is stupid. I tried several times to make a comment on your page. Maybe I have a machine problem. I have never heard of a bubblegum error. It sounded like a joke but maybe I am being popped:-) I just wanted to know if anyone else has had that problem. Thanks.

      • 4 votes
      #3.4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:45 PM EST
      American Idle

      gen, I just googled bubblegum error and found something. sounds like a programming glitch for a video game or system. do you have that on your computer?

      • 6 votes
      #3.5 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:03 AM EST
      johny-388777

      It means that you wrote a bunch of comments too quickly ( bubble gum error). I get that if i write too much. If you leave it for a around I think 15 minutes or sign out and sign in. It will go away.

      I am sad about skepticism. I think its true. We got these clowns but the big shots are free. They are above the law with there sneaky lawyers and backroom deals.

      http://gozounlimited.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/26/10242087-more-caution-and-skepticism-about-federal-mortgage-investigation?threadId=3329552&commentId=61913424#c61913424

      • 6 votes
      #3.6 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:46 AM EST
      genevieveva

      I received a wonderful and rapid reply from Newsvine. They had an internal programming error and solved it rapidly. Thank you all for the advise and suggestions.

      • 4 votes
      #3.7 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:34 PM EST
      Radio Free America

      American Idle and genevieveva

      gen, that is weird. I don't know what that was. I haven't gotten any other reports on that. Did you report a bug to Newsvine? That's all I can think to do about that.

      This happened to me last summer.

      • 4 votes
      #3.8 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:43 AM EST
      American Idle

      All's well that ends well.

      • 3 votes
      #3.9 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM EST
      genevieveva

      Sorry if I caused any concern. Again, thanks for the replies.

      • 2 votes
      #3.10 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:46 PM EST
      Reply
      blue wolf

      Tick tock, tick tock....eventually they will get to one domino that will send the entire line falling all the way back to Walker.

      • 26 votes
      Reply#4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:45 PM EST
      John Franklin Mason

      Tick tock, tick tock....eventually they will get to one domino that will send the entire line falling all the way back to Walker

      blue wolf

      Perhaps Scott Walker will be using a lot of the money he is raising under the auspices of being recalled to defend future criminal charges related to the fundraising scandle eh?

      • 24 votes
      #4.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:02 PM EST
      blue wolf

      lmao! perhaps lol

      • 12 votes
      #4.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM EST
      LasVegasRocks

      blue wolf -

      Soon it will be more like rats leaving a sinking ship.

      • 9 votes
      #4.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:20 PM EST
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      TheyreAllCrooks

      The governors perp walk is getting closer and closer! He's going to look so cute in that orange jumpsuit - and I have no doubt he'll be an adorable prison b!tch!

      I can't wait! Someday soon the WI State Police and the FBI are very likely to storm the guvs mansion and drag his azz way in government bling bling!

      • 17 votes
      Reply#5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:58 PM EST
      Janice Hairston

      It would appear that going to jail is getting closer as the days go by.

      • 16 votes
      #5.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:07 PM EST
      TheyreAllCrooks

      I think the only question is will Walker be indicted before or after the recall election!

      Because he IS going to be indicted...no question in my mind! There's no way in hell he doesn't know all these crimes are going on right under his nose!

      • 19 votes
      #5.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM EST
      Palmquist1

      He was in charge so he had known.

      • 15 votes
      #5.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:09 PM EST
      kj031056-1

      The FBI might be coming for his a$$......but the Wi State Patrol is headed by the Fitzgerald brothers old man.....so he's pretty comfy with the Gov.....

      • 13 votes
      #5.4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:19 PM EST
      TheyreAllCrooks

      Yeah, well I'm pretty sure when he's told he gets to make "one phone call" - he'll be calling the Koch brothers to bail his crooked azz out!

      • 13 votes
      #5.5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:25 PM EST
      johny-388777

      It would so great if the FBI had the line tapped and they get them ( kochs) for conspiracy to obstruct justice and or conspiracy for tampering with evidence.

      • 5 votes
      #5.6 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:48 AM EST
      American Idle

      johny, that would be good. But it's legal to have a conspiracy to screw with the people of Wisconsin. It's not just the Kochs, though they may be the richest and most high profile. There are these enormously wealthy right-wing extremists who are funding all kinds of organizations and campaigns. They want to rule the world.

      And the thing is, HOW MUCH MORE DO THEY WANT?

      • 5 votes
      #5.7 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:21 AM EST
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      Thinknaboutit

      In the course of the investigation it was learned that a private email network was established and operated out of the County Executive’s office and that private network was used to communicate both political campaign and government work related information to select individuals," prosecutors wrote in the release announcing charges.

      What are the odds they'll be able to tie this to the Koch super pacs? Surely they wouldn't have left proof of their coordinating anything right?

      • 28 votes
      Reply#6 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM EST
      John Franklin Mason

      What are the odds they'll be able to tie this to the Koch super pacs? Surely they wouldn't have left proof of their coordinating anything right?

      Thinknaboutit

      Walker could not believe his good fortune in being offered a free trip to visit David Kochs ranch in California by David Koch himself!

      Beam up Scott Scotty!

      • 23 votes
      #6.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:20 PM EST
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      NC Slim

      On Wisconsin!!!!!!

      • 16 votes
      Reply#7 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:26 PM EST
      American Idle

      On Wisconsin!!!!!!

      Indeed!

      • 16 votes
      #7.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:37 PM EST
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      hugh b

      It is the American way.

      Deceit, manipulation, corruption, fraud....

      Greed, profits, growth, and results have to meet unreasonable expectations causing integrity, character, honor, and dignity to be nothing more than mythical concepts.

      Go against it and you'll pay for the rest of your life.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#8 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:27 PM EST
      American Idle

      I hope this encourages people all over the country to press for clean government and prosecute those who violate the public trust.

      • 16 votes
      #8.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:39 PM EST
      Tink-2285193

      Well...as we can see by the people who support the GOPTeaBag Presidential candidates that not all the people in the country want decent elected officials.

      • 4 votes
      #8.2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:37 AM EST
      American Idle

      Tink, I think a lot of them just bought a bill of goods, you know? There are low information voters, for whatever reason. That happens on both sides. The repubs are particularly adept at branding some truly repugnant stuff with a smiley happy face. I can see where if you're not sort of a political junkie that would be confusing.

      On the other hand, it's really incumbent on people to be good citizens...at least try to be informed. What irks me the most is how people get swayed by commercials on TV. WTF is that about?

      • 5 votes
      #8.3 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:54 AM EST
      Tink-2285193

      I do agree, AI. I was speaking mostly of the kind of low-level people that show up at the debates and rallies and just spew at lot of hate, and cheer and applaud the most immoral, inhumane and disgusting things the candidates say. Those are the people I am speaking about.

      I know that there are far more truly decent people who love America and its people as much as I and the majority of the rest of true Americans do, on both sides, and that there are many Republicans who are ashamed of what their party has become and what they are trying to do and have done to America and its people. I have several friends who have been life-long Republicans and they have left the party because of the fanatical religious and political extremism and more decay they see consuming the Republican party now that the Tea Party has assimilated it and turned it into the Borg, where no one is allowed to think or act for themselves.

      I am truly hoping that the decent people in America will use their heads in voting this time and not their anger. Going back and becoming a serfdom is not the answer.

      • 5 votes
      #8.4 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:38 AM EST
      American Idle

      I can't watch those debates. It's the audience. You expect ridiculous sh/t out of candidates, but to see the kinds of reactions they get is really horrifying.

      The Borg indeed!

      • 4 votes
      #8.5 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:24 AM EST
      genevieveva

      It is shameful and not what I consider American.

      • 3 votes
      #8.6 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:09 PM EST
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      FactOfTheMatter

      Walker will be gone, but probably not soon enough.

      • 20 votes
      Reply#9 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:30 PM EST
      American Idle

      Yesterday was too late!

      • 14 votes
      #9.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:39 PM EST
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      Ron Francisvia FacebookDeleted
      UVA

      I heard today that this was part of a probable "Pay-To-Play" scheme, like the one Rod Blagojevich ran in Illinois.
      The problem for Walker is Rod Blagojevich is going to jail, and that means there is precedent on this one in the courts.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#11 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST
      Mike in Wisky

      You mean like what former Democrat Senate Majority Leader Chuck Chvala went to prison for?

      http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/1919957.html

      Dream on.

      • 2 votes
      #11.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:01 PM EST
      UVA

      You mean like what former Democrat Senate Majority Leader Chuck Chvala went to prison for?

      Reading and comprehension are apparently NOT strengths of Republicans.
      The charges brought against Chvala were VERY different that those brought against Rod Blagojevic.
      Why not ask first and avoid the appearance of complete ignorance ...?

      • 18 votes
      #11.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:18 PM EST
      Mike in Wisky

      Why not ask first and avoid the appearance of complete ignorance ...?

      I was being polite...actually I don't give a @!$%# about Rod Bagojevic.

      This link explains how "Pay to Play" works in Wisconsin. The Democrats here have perfected it.

      http://www.bootsandsabers.com/index.php/weblog/permalink/paying_to_play/

      • 2 votes
      #11.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:37 PM EST
      Reply
      Mike in Wisky

      So they finally got Darlene Wink on something. A 2 year long investigation by the partisan hack Democrat DA in Milwaukee and he charges her with two misdemeanors for politicking at work.

      I wonder if the Democrat DA in Kenosha ever gets to charging this unionista for her crimes.

      http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/135897293.html

      http://mystatelinereport.com/wordpress/?p=629

      • 2 votes
      Reply#12 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM EST
      Pamela Drew

      Hats off and thanks to you and all the folks in Wisconsin who have driven this issue to the point of forcing the corrupt crony system to face real scrutiny in court of public opinion so Justice system can't ignore it! Mwah!!

      • 19 votes
      Reply#13 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 PM EST
      steven-791492

      More great news coming out of Wisconsin.

      How many days until walker taken away in cuffs?

      • 17 votes
      Reply#14 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:03 PM EST
      UVA

      How many days until walker taken away in cuffs?

      I'm watching with much interest as reports of a "Rod Blagojevic" type "Pay-To-Play" scheme is emerging.

      If this is in fact the case, then Jail is in his future.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#15 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:20 PM EST
      B.L. Frazer (NYC)

      Hear that Scott Walker? That's the sound of the toilet flushing and your career is circling the drain.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#16 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:41 PM EST
      Fed up with Republicans

      There has to be something against the law that would allow for the establishment and use of a private email network being used for governmental business.


      Like that which "was established and operated out of the County Executive’s office and that private network was used to communicate both political campaign and government work related information to select individuals,"

      • 14 votes
      Reply#17 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:46 PM EST
      Sharon J-1312993

      It seems that bill i think the posters name is is not willing to convict without trial but is willing to exonerate with out trial. I understand sticking up for you party but be real you really consider this Gov to be someone you want to represent you? The pubs I know are ashamed of how it has gone these past few years. Absolutely appalled at their party and what it has become.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#18 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:46 PM EST
      Fada

      I am just thinking American Idle is corrupton a normal global pattern? Those corrupts revealed because of the assertive people of Wisconsin, how many corrupt would be revealed if people in every State bound together against corruption?

      • 10 votes
      Reply#19 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:50 PM EST
      American Idle

      Good point, Fada. It really does take the people to rise up against injustice. Average people surely don't have the means to know all the dirty deals, but they do have the power to insist on clean government. I pray we continue to do that here.

      • 10 votes
      #19.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:29 PM EST
      Fada

      Exactly American Idle , people have changed, they don't give up just because they don't have the means , insistence and binding together are their power and means

      • 9 votes
      #19.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 PM EST
      American Idle

      Fada, I doubt anyone knows that better than people like you in Egypt. It's amazing what you've accomplished there. We have it easy in comparison.

      • 5 votes
      #19.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:30 PM EST
      Fada

      There's no easy way American Idle to get your rights, you are doing great in Wisconsin. I see the way harder in the West because power of Capitalism is buttressed with manipulative laws and political ties with the powerful 1%.

      We in the west may have to pay lives but we understand that the long course needs us not to stop protests and strikes to get rid of transit military ruling and we will again and again if brotherhood didn't fulfil what they promised to do of economical and social reformation

      • 7 votes
      #19.4 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:25 PM EST
      American Idle

      Fada, how brave you are. I can see how battles such as yours can be unifying. Also terrifying. Maybe because people are so much at risk, and so visibly, it's easier to know who/what the enemy is.

      Here, it's all subterfuge. There is always a hidden agenda. And powerful and wealthy people hidden behind the agenda.

      It always amazes me how out people fall for the same old tricks. I've been more or less politically aware for 40 years, and you see the pattern repeat again and again.

      • 5 votes
      #19.5 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:30 AM EST
      Fada

      I am optimist American Idle whatever the hidden agendas and manipulation of the political and economical elites

      The people have changed remarkably allover the last few years , may be because of the fast growth of global population and collapse of economicy wideworld. They are not the same nice complacent people who were buying governmental lies and subterfuges , I even appal violence might rise against governments in the future

      I made a mistake in msg #19.4, I should've written 'we in Egypt'

      • 5 votes
      #19.6 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:25 PM EST
      American Idle

      Fada, very sad. Reporting on CNN now, 98 killed in Syria. Report is that something like 40 percent of the people are out demonstrating. Bodies are turning up, tortured. People are holding up signs asking for the world to help.

      We've a had a year of uprisings all over the world. People are paying for freedom with their lives. It seems that is the history of humankind. We are not as evolved as we think.

      • 3 votes
      #19.7 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:09 PM EST
      Fada

      Syrian news breaks my heart American Idle more than the news of any Arab protests. Syrian people are in serious plight , the sadist Assad is committing true genocide on daily scale and for a year and no one do anything about it. He didn't learn from other uprises that no go back after spilling the first drop of blood, he is like Gaddafi insisting to waste more lives before he go

      • 4 votes
      #19.8 - Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:40 PM EST
      American Idle

      Perhaps he'll end up like Qadaffi. My heart goes out to the people.

      • 4 votes
      #19.9 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:50 PM EST
      Reply
      Bill K. NY

      And this investigation has already produced one conviction. #2.13 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:31 PM EST

      Guilt by association. Another fine practice of the dims.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#20 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:32 PM EST
      blue wolf

      I don't see where anybody has presumed guilt, but gee Bill, based on the developments so far what would be your assesment?

      Potential problem here or what?

      Would you say that based on what we know so far, this may be pretty bad for Walker?

      • 15 votes
      #20.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:17 PM EST
      American Idle

      Bill, please clarify. Exactly whom are you calling "dims." People here on the 'vine?

      • 15 votes
      #20.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:30 PM EST
      northtosouth

      He's grenade trolling. Pay him no mind. Great seed and great job up there in Wisconsin. Maybe I'll take the munchkin and wife up to the Dells after all!

      • 16 votes
      #20.3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:47 PM EST
      American Idle

      north, dead of winter is a good time up there. Just get one of those hotels with the indoor water parks.

      btw, BIG demos planned for the week of the one year anniversary of our "Cheesehead Rebellion." I think things are starting on 2/11. Come join us for some rabblerousing.

      • 12 votes
      #20.4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:09 PM EST
      northtosouth

      Let's get one going in Kenosha. I haven't had a root beer long island in a long time (been stuck in Florida for 5 years, just moved back to the Chi a few months ago). I'll bring a gang up on the Metra!

      • 2 votes
      #20.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:21 AM EST
      American Idle

      And you know Sprechers up here makes the best root beer in the WORLD!

      Do come on up. Watch for announcements.

      Last I heard, it kicks off on Feb. 11 and continues with various events for about a week.

      ONE YEAR AND GOING STRONG.

      Fight On, Wisconsin

      • 3 votes
      #20.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:53 PM EST
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      Radio Free America

      It's getting closer and closer. Who will break first and tell all? Guess they know what they are saying, when they say there is fraud in the voting process.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#21 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:37 PM EST
      American Idle

      Hey, Radio. And there are those immunity agreements on those other staffers, and some of them are current, not ex. They will have to testify or be prosecuted.

      • 15 votes
      #21.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:32 PM EST
      Reply
      itstoolate

      I have a vision of Scott Walker running around his office yelling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#22 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:57 PM EST
      American Idle

      Unlike Chicken Little, he'd be right!

      • 12 votes
      #22.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:32 PM EST
      Randy McMurphy

      I get the feeling if some of his former comrades turns state evidence he will see the sky... for an hour a day....

      • 15 votes
      #22.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:45 PM EST
      Reply
      Cee-290862

      Let's see Walker's people come to his defense about this matter.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#23 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:41 PM EST
      keepfreepress

      Walker is as corrupt as they come and all the scandals surrounding his administration should prove beyond doubt that Walker should be recalled, this all goes far beyond Walker's over reach with his job cutting union busting plans that have hurt the state and cost far more than the state benefited.

      Walker has the worst job creation record in the country so he was never catapulted into office on the backs of wealthy Corporate donors to really do anything about jobs. The out of state donors and high rollers only wanted him and other GOP governors to suppress jobs so they could blame Obama.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#24 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:28 PM EST
      American Idle

      We know that investigators have seized computers, so we'll see what comes out of that. People think they can just hit "delete" to erase a file. Uh uh.

      • 7 votes
      #24.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:31 PM EST
      Reply
      Angry Left-532262

      The right seems to have a problem with email and the internet in general.

      It's a real bitch when we can check to see exactly what you said and what you did isn't it.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#25 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:26 PM EST
      American Idle

      Exactly. It's all there in the computer. I don't think they get that.

      It's a Zoolander thing...

      • 7 votes
      #25.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:36 PM EST
      Reply
      euterpe-1641499

      This is just too good! This man is a disgrace. The recall elections can't happen soon enough.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#26 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:38 PM EST
      TheyreAllCrooks

      I will be emailing Governor Rod Blago's prison uniform number to Governor Walker...so they can be sure to say hello in the shower!

      If Walker prefers more mature, older crook governors...Governor Ryan might still be alive when Walker gets his rear cavity checked!

      • 5 votes
      #26.1 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:45 PM EST
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